The world, not just South Boston, is overcrowded. Until people stop starting families and buying cars, the problem is never going away. Get over yourselves and stop trying to take over public roads!
Savemyspot agrees with anonymous. However, the shoveling out practice makes sense during a snow emergency and the 48 hours that follow. We feel that there are people who take advantage of what is a good concept. but then there are those who feel that if they don't do it themselves, they will have nowhere to park. It feeds off itself.
"[T]he shoveling out practice makes sense during a snow emergency and the 48 hours that follow." With all due respect, for three primary reasons, I completely disagree: (1) We are talking about public spots. Repeat it over and over again: PUBLIC, PUBLIC, PUBLIC, PUBLIC, PUBLIC; (2) I have yet to hear of an acceptable rationale for a 48-hour rule. You lose your spot? So what. Dig out another or park farther away. It's part of living in the city; (3) Most importantly, the rule already has shown to be a complete failure. Rules that universally are not followed and are not enforced should be discarded. These retards put out cones regardless of whether there's a snow emergency, and 95% of them ignore the 48-hour limitation. This issue needs a bright-line rule: No spot-savers EVER. Death to the spot savers!!
Since the day I moved to southie i have considered the way people "save" spots to be as selfish as something can be. For the life of me I don't understand how the people that do it convince themselves that they are entitled to do so. We ALL shovel our cars out after a snow storm. The cars that sit there covered with snow..guess what..we ALL suffer from the fact that some people travel for their job and will be gone during a snow storm..it stinks..but it is what it is and we ALL lose parking spots. Still, the bottom line is all of us that drive to work shovel our cars out. The number of cars that leave for work doesn't vary b/c it's going to snow..therefore there will be the same number of parking spots as a non-snow day. Seriously people stop being so selfish and childish with this "it's my spot, i shoveled out!" bogus argument.
I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY WHAT I HAVE SAID SINCE THE "NEW COMERS" HAVE CAME INTO OUR TOWN & STARTED UPROARS OVER MAJORITY OF OUR TRADITIONS....IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE WAY WE DO THINGS, LIKE SPOT SAVING, THEN LEAVE & GO PARK IN YOUR DRIVEWAY
1. Guess what? It's not "your town," just like the parking spots at issue are not "your spots." What you are doing is ILLEGAL, you mongoloid. Like you, we are taxpayers, and we are entitled to use those spots.
2. Who is complaining about the majority of your traditions? We yuppies love the St. Patty's Day political breakfast, corned beef (the gray variety is my personal favorite), and tons of booze just as much as you. We're currently talking about one asinine tradition that needs to go. Try and stay on point.
3. WTF does "have came into" mean? Is that English?
I think the uproar started when all of Southie finally got resident parking about 4 years ago. Resident parking was supposed to eliminate this winter headache.
I bet if everyone stopped putting 'space savers' out they would see that things would be just fine. Everyone would have a space to park their cars. There are plenty of congested cities and towns in Boston (and other cities) that get through the winter without these parking battles.
I would suggest working together and try not using space savers just once to see what happens. You don't know until you try. We all have bigger things to worry about than a piece of pavement that doesn't belong to us.
If you find it "disgusting" as some have called it here in this blog, LEAD BY EXAMPLE. I personnally find it disgusting that people are so passionate about this issue, right up to the point where they have to inconvenience themselves or confront an abuser of this practice.
Eagle1, without the 48-hour rule, most people wouldn't bother to shovel their spot and would just floor it out of there. So in that sense, the brief space saver period does serve a civic purpose. The truth is that few of us, yuppie or lifer, would put much effort into the snow removal with a personal incentive.
I'm a "lifer", and am just as annoyed by the space savers as any one else. Plenty of "lifers" are sick of their neighbors abusing the 48 hour rule.
The city isn't doing much to enforce the ban on space savers because they aren't getting a lot of complaints. If you call the Mayor's office (617.635.4500) they will send out a truck. Unfortunately that doesn't stop it. I actually saw one of my neighbors run out and put his bestie's spot saver back out after the truck left. ugh! But hey, I think at least some of the selfish bastards lost their spots. I'm seriously contemplating putting notes on people's savers. Not that it'll do much, but I'm just so sick of looking at trash whenever I leave my house.
"Eagle1, without the 48-hour rule, most people wouldn't bother to shovel their spot and would just floor it out of there. So in that sense, the brief space saver period does serve a civic purpose. The truth is that few of us, yuppie or lifer, would put much effort into the snow removal with a personal incentive." Anonymous.
Sorry, Anonymous, but I think that's incredibly silly. I hear that one a lot, mostly from people who haven't thought it through. It's very simple: People need to get into and out of the spots. One way or another, coming or going, the spots will be shoveled.
You hear that argument a lot???? How much discussion time do you put into this? I guess the bright side is that life is pretty good is this is one of your biggest problems.
"if you people just got off your asses and helped each other out with the shoveling, including your elderly neighbors, then maybe JUST FUCKING MAYBE, you will all have your spots to park in. Fucking amateurs."
That's what's called a "red herring," i.e., an argument that is meant to distract and has nothing to with the real issue. I have an elderly neighbor. I take good care of her. Parking spots are irrelevant.
"I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY WHAT I HAVE SAID SINCE THE "NEW COMERS" HAVE CAME INTO OUR TOWN & STARTED UPROARS OVER MAJORITY OF OUR TRADITIONS....IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE WAY WE DO THINGS, LIKE SPOT SAVING, THEN LEAVE & GO PARK IN YOUR DRIVEWAY"
This situation has become so bad, that people are leaving savers in empty spaces when they leave for work, even when it hasn't started snowing yet. Case in point: last Tuesday. I didn't know it was "tradition" to claim something you haven't even worked for yet. Not that it's justified after you shovel, but "pre-saving" your space is absolutely ridiculous.
Like I said before, it's all about Etiquette. You go to a restaurant here in the States and you leave 20%. You go to Ireland, and there is no tip. Where I grew up there wasn't an issue parking, but I knew when I shoveled my grandfathers spot there was a tradition here. I think that's whats great about the place, good or bad, there are things that have been passed down generation to generation, if you don't like it move, most do. Those who accept it, stay. Etiquette, look it up.............
West 4th. I agree with you for the most part. But what about those who take advantage of the local custom, or etiquette? Certainly putting out a trash can before it snows goes against etiquette, since the "etiquette is "if you shovel it out it's yours."
Are the "anticipatory coners" right in reserving their spots before the first flake hits the ground?
Thank you West 4th, I understand the definition of etiquette. The etiquette in Southie is to reserve your space for a few days if you've done the grunt work of digging your car out and shoveling the space. Whether I agree with that or not is irrelevant. That's the accepted etiquette in South Boston, and "has been for generations." However, hearing about a potential 3 inches of snow coming in the afternoon doesn't give anybody the right to save a space in front of their house before they leave for work in the morning - which is what I was complaining about.
"to the chagrin of longtime residents"
ReplyDeleteThe world, not just South Boston, is overcrowded. Until people stop starting families and buying cars, the problem is never going away. Get over yourselves and stop trying to take over public roads!
Savemyspot agrees with anonymous. However, the shoveling out practice makes sense during a snow emergency and the 48 hours that follow. We feel that there are people who take advantage of what is a good concept. but then there are those who feel that if they don't do it themselves, they will have nowhere to park. It feeds off itself.
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ReplyDelete"[T]he shoveling out practice makes sense during a snow emergency and the 48 hours that follow." With all due respect, for three primary reasons, I completely disagree: (1) We are talking about public spots. Repeat it over and over again: PUBLIC, PUBLIC, PUBLIC, PUBLIC, PUBLIC; (2) I have yet to hear of an acceptable rationale for a 48-hour rule. You lose your spot? So what. Dig out another or park farther away. It's part of living in the city; (3) Most importantly, the rule already has shown to be a complete failure. Rules that universally are not followed and are not enforced should be discarded. These retards put out cones regardless of whether there's a snow emergency, and 95% of them ignore the 48-hour limitation. This issue needs a bright-line rule: No spot-savers EVER. Death to the spot savers!!
BTW - The time-stamp on these comments is three hours behind.
ReplyDeleteSince the day I moved to southie i have considered the way people "save" spots to be as selfish as something can be. For the life of me I don't understand how the people that do it convince themselves that they are entitled to do so. We ALL shovel our cars out after a snow storm. The cars that sit there covered with snow..guess what..we ALL suffer from the fact that some people travel for their job and will be gone during a snow storm..it stinks..but it is what it is and we ALL lose parking spots. Still, the bottom line is all of us that drive to work shovel our cars out. The number of cars that leave for work doesn't vary b/c it's going to snow..therefore there will be the same number of parking spots as a non-snow day. Seriously people stop being so selfish and childish with this "it's my spot, i shoveled out!" bogus argument.
ReplyDeleteI WILL CONTINUE TO SAY WHAT I HAVE SAID SINCE THE "NEW COMERS" HAVE CAME INTO OUR TOWN & STARTED UPROARS OVER MAJORITY OF OUR TRADITIONS....IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE WAY WE DO THINGS, LIKE SPOT SAVING, THEN LEAVE & GO PARK IN YOUR DRIVEWAY
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ReplyDelete1. Guess what? It's not "your town," just like the parking spots at issue are not "your spots." What you are doing is ILLEGAL, you mongoloid. Like you, we are taxpayers, and we are entitled to use those spots.
2. Who is complaining about the majority of your traditions? We yuppies love the St. Patty's Day political breakfast, corned beef (the gray variety is my personal favorite), and tons of booze just as much as you. We're currently talking about one asinine tradition that needs to go. Try and stay on point.
3. WTF does "have came into" mean? Is that English?
I think the uproar started when all of Southie finally got resident parking about 4 years ago. Resident parking was supposed to eliminate this winter headache.
ReplyDeleteI bet if everyone stopped putting 'space savers' out they would see that things would be just fine. Everyone would have a space to park their cars. There are plenty of congested cities and towns in Boston (and other cities) that get through the winter without these parking battles.
I would suggest working together and try not using space savers just once to see what happens. You don't know until you try. We all have bigger things to worry about than a piece of pavement that doesn't belong to us.
Peace and Love, Peace and Love.
If you find it "disgusting" as some have called it here in this blog, LEAD BY EXAMPLE. I personnally find it disgusting that people are so passionate about this issue, right up to the point where they have to inconvenience themselves or confront an abuser of this practice.
ReplyDeleteEagle1, without the 48-hour rule, most people wouldn't bother to shovel their spot and would just floor it out of there. So in that sense, the brief space saver period does serve a civic purpose. The truth is that few of us, yuppie or lifer, would put much effort into the snow removal with a personal incentive.
ReplyDeleteI'm a "lifer", and am just as annoyed by the space savers as any one else. Plenty of "lifers" are sick of their neighbors abusing the 48 hour rule.
ReplyDeleteThe city isn't doing much to enforce the ban on space savers because they aren't getting a lot of complaints. If you call the Mayor's office (617.635.4500) they will send out a truck. Unfortunately that doesn't stop it. I actually saw one of my neighbors run out and put his bestie's spot saver back out after the truck left. ugh! But hey, I think at least some of the selfish bastards lost their spots. I'm seriously contemplating putting notes on people's savers. Not that it'll do much, but I'm just so sick of looking at trash whenever I leave my house.
"Eagle1, without the 48-hour rule, most people wouldn't bother to shovel their spot and would just floor it out of there. So in that sense, the brief space saver period does serve a civic purpose. The truth is that few of us, yuppie or lifer, would put much effort into the snow removal with a personal incentive." Anonymous.
ReplyDeleteSorry, Anonymous, but I think that's incredibly silly. I hear that one a lot, mostly from people who haven't thought it through. It's very simple: People need to get into and out of the spots. One way or another, coming or going, the spots will be shoveled.
You hear that argument a lot???? How much discussion time do you put into this? I guess the bright side is that life is pretty good is this is one of your biggest problems.
ReplyDelete"if you people just got off your asses and helped each other out with the shoveling, including your elderly neighbors, then maybe JUST FUCKING MAYBE, you will all have your spots to park in. Fucking amateurs."
ReplyDeleteThat's what's called a "red herring," i.e., an argument that is meant to distract and has nothing to with the real issue. I have an elderly neighbor. I take good care of her. Parking spots are irrelevant.
"I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY WHAT I HAVE SAID SINCE THE "NEW COMERS" HAVE CAME INTO OUR TOWN & STARTED UPROARS OVER MAJORITY OF OUR TRADITIONS....IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE WAY WE DO THINGS, LIKE SPOT SAVING, THEN LEAVE & GO PARK IN YOUR DRIVEWAY"
ReplyDeleteThis situation has become so bad, that people are leaving savers in empty spaces when they leave for work, even when it hasn't started snowing yet. Case in point: last Tuesday. I didn't know it was "tradition" to claim something you haven't even worked for yet. Not that it's justified after you shovel, but "pre-saving" your space is absolutely ridiculous.
Like I said before, it's all about Etiquette. You go to a restaurant here in the States and you leave 20%. You go to Ireland, and there is no tip. Where I grew up there wasn't an issue parking, but I knew when I shoveled my grandfathers spot there was a tradition here. I think that's whats great about the place, good or bad, there are things that have been passed down generation to generation, if you don't like it move, most do. Those who accept it, stay. Etiquette, look it up.............
ReplyDeleteWest 4th. I agree with you for the most part. But what about those who take advantage of the local custom, or etiquette? Certainly putting out a trash can before it snows goes against etiquette, since the "etiquette is "if you shovel it out it's yours."
ReplyDeleteAre the "anticipatory coners" right in reserving their spots before the first flake hits the ground?
then if parking spaces are irrelevant eagle1, why do you waste your time bitching about the PARKING SPACES?!
ReplyDeleteThank you West 4th, I understand the definition of etiquette. The etiquette in Southie is to reserve your space for a few days if you've done the grunt work of digging your car out and shoveling the space. Whether I agree with that or not is irrelevant. That's the accepted etiquette in South Boston, and "has been for generations." However, hearing about a potential 3 inches of snow coming in the afternoon doesn't give anybody the right to save a space in front of their house before they leave for work in the morning - which is what I was complaining about.
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